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clarion or panasonic head unit?

clarion or panasonic head unit?

Postby Callen » Sun Jul 11, 2004 2:19 pm

Should I get the Clarion cxz745mp, or the panasonic (300 model?¿?)

clarion has 24 bit DAC and center channel, panasonic looks cooler.
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Postby Jackass-Jeff » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:04 pm

the clarion 24 bit dac is useless

Get the Panasonic unless you get an outside EQ. The Clarion EQ blows goat!
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Postby i20solara02i » Sun Jul 11, 2004 6:35 pm

xRAVExBoIx wrote:The Clarion EQ blows goat!


yep the clarion eq aren't that great. they sux arse
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Postby Jon11582 » Sun Jul 11, 2004 8:20 pm

Panasonic's EQ used to blow too.

As in, nonexistant. I had the C983U, which is only one generation old, and that only had bass and treble adjustments and nothing else. It did have two bass modes, one called "Boom" and one called "Tight", but you could have called them both "weak"

I guess they got some complaints, since I got the new C8400U (C983U's replacement), and this ones's EQ is REALLY nice, probably one of the best.

Bass/Treble + 7-band EQ + Sub channel boost +
Low Pass Filter + High pass filter + ability to low pass your rear speakers

Whats the panasonic 300 model? I have no idea which one your talking about.

Also couldnt find any info on the cxz745mp, only the dxz745mp, but I dont think that has center channel so its probably not the right one.
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Postby Jackass-Jeff » Sun Jul 11, 2004 9:31 pm

oh ya, just to add

a center channel speaker is useless if you don't have a speaker for it to be utilized :wink:
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Postby ZXLNT » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:53 am

Which Panasonic Model..
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Postby Callen » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:01 am

xRAVExBoIx wrote:oh ya, just to add

a center channel speaker is useless if you don't have a speaker for it to be utilized :wink:

oh really? Cause I thought it made the sub-woofer put out high frequencies coming from the center location :lol: :drinking: :rofl:


The panasonic model i'm wanting is CQ-C8300U, and i think ths is the one i'm wanting.
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Postby Jackass-Jeff » Mon Jul 12, 2004 10:32 am

Callen wrote:
xRAVExBoIx wrote:oh ya, just to add

a center channel speaker is useless if you don't have a speaker for it to be utilized :wink:

oh really? Cause I thought it made the sub-woofer put out high frequencies coming from the center location :lol: :drinking: :rofl:


The panasonic model i'm wanting is CQ-C8300U, and i think ths is the one i'm wanting.

:P Some people think 5 channel just means more power... hahaha just making sure you knew 8)
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Postby Jon11582 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:16 am

the c8300u is almost the same as the c8400u I have now.

It its got a max of 4x25/50w instead of 4x26/60w, and the display isnt customizable like the 8400. Otherwise, I think its the same thing. I got the 8400U, honestly, because it wasnt too much more and I wanted to play with the customization thing (and a little extra power as a bonus), but its purely novelty.

I have no complaints getting another Panasonic at all. After about a month of research a few months ago, I bought the Panasonic 983U, and I really was unimpressed with the SQ and sound shaping, but liked everything else about it. As soon as this new 8x00U series came out, and I found out about the 7 band EQ, I was itchin to get it. I got it as soon as I found a buyer for the old one.

In functionality and SQ, this is way above the old one. My fav feature of the new one is the SBC-SW, which makes your rear speakers act as your low pass speakers (like subs). I dont have subs right now, so the SBC-SW makes it sound worlds better without actually having a sub in the back. (the rear 6x9s are more suited towards bass fill than high/mid quality anyways). Using the low pass filter, bass setting, seven band EQ, and sub level control with SBC-SW really makes the rear speakers pound.

With subs, its got the 5v preamps in addition to all the sub and bass features, so its still nice.

Plus, no other company can touch the display. Even when its displaying just text (which is probably where itll be set most of the time after the novelty of the motion pictures wear off), it looks great. I only have two minor complaints over the old model.

1) The buttons on the 983U one looked better. Buttons were more integrated with the design, and were all reverse lit (the text was lit, not the button lit). No big deal, 8x00U still looks good

2) For MP3s, Old one used to let you display artist on line1, and title on line2. Closest the 8x00U lets you display is album on line1, and title/artist on line2. I could care less about the album name. Again, minor nuisance.

Its also worth noting they dropped satillite radio in the new 8x00U series, but I never used it anyways.

They added alot, including headunit tilt, motorized faceplate, SBC-SW, LPF, HPF, 7-Band EQ, more pictures and scenes, and for the 8400U, bumped the power to 26/60w, and added customizability.

The customizing thing is cool. Ive only done it with a few pictures so far (few from our East coast Solara meets), and its decent. I havent been able to do movies yet, since it only works with AVIs and i havent found a AVI I wanna put in there yet. Its definitly a novelty feature though, and you wont miss it much if you get the 8300. Mines on text 99% of the time, except when on radio.

As far as the difference from the 25/50w amp to the 26/60w amp. Well my 8400U does sound alot better than my 983U did, but I think thats mostly a function of the sound shaping rather than the new amp.

I think you should definitly go for the Panasonic, but Im a little biased.
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Postby SoLaRa_PimPin99 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:22 am

Get a Alpine headunit...Much Better! 8)
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Postby Jackass-Jeff » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:32 am

SoLaRa_PimPin99 wrote:Get a Alpine headunit...Much Better! 8)


Agreed! Too bad they all look the same :P
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Postby pro956 » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:44 am

what's your budget for the head unit?
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Postby bassthrive » Mon Jul 12, 2004 11:49 am

I ordered my Clarion dxz745mp a few days ago. Yep it has a Dolby Digital/DTS processor but you wont be using that if you arent watching a dvd. Hopefully I will install it by this weekend.

Reasons for me going with clarion...
I dont need or want a screen saver in my car while I am driving. The face of the clarion unit screams quality in appearance and feel - it dosent look like a toy. Gold plated 4 volt preouts are nice if a sub is in my future. I guess one of the biggest deciding factor for me was that unlike sony, jvc and panasonic, the clarion company does nothing but mobile audio/video. If their systems werent kick-a$$ then they would be out of business.

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Postby Callen » Mon Jul 12, 2004 12:11 pm

bassthrive wrote:I ordered my Clarion dxz745mp a few days ago. Yep it has a Dolby Digital/DTS processor but you wont be using that if you arent watching a dvd. Hopefully I will install it by this weekend.

Reasons for me going with clarion...
I dont need or want a screen saver in my car while I am driving. The face of the clarion unit screams quality in appearance and feel - it dosent look like a toy. Gold plated 4 volt preouts are nice if a sub is in my future. I guess one of the biggest deciding factor for me was that unlike sony, jvc and panasonic, the clarion company does nothing but mobile audio/video. If their systems werent kick-a$$ then they would be out of business.

- Paul

if people didn't buy their stuff for that reason,,, they'd be out of business too :-? .. Also, the 745 doens't have dolby digital/DTS processor,, but has input ports for things such as,,,, a dolby digital proccesor or 6-disc/DVD changer.
Also, I could be wrong on this, but we're talking about a head unit here... I'll probably turn the amplifire on it off so as far as it's functionality,, I'll be using it for playing cd's/mp3's (Which panasonic knows how to do well). The features may not be the same top-notch quality as clarion,,, but there sure is alot more for the price, and if it's durability is good, than I won't have much of a problem.
And it looks prime compared.

edit- Unless your gona get gold RCA (and/or speaker) wires, than those gold-plated terminals aren't gona do too much for ya.
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Postby bassthrive » Mon Jul 12, 2004 3:04 pm

Callen wrote:if people didn't buy their stuff for that reason,,, they'd be out of business too :-? ..

Companies like sony and panasonic make everything from telephones to cameras. Car audio is just a fraction of what these huge corporations manufacture (check out sony xplod horror stories). A company that exclusively does audio like clarion or alpine has to make a solid product or else how else would they make money? This is only my humble opinion.

Callen wrote:Also, the 745 doens't have dolby digital/DTS processor,,

:drinking: You are right. I read the specs again and it says with use of ceNET control. I forgot to mention satellite radio in my previous post. Also, I should probably add that I got my clarion unit almost half off the $399 retail (crutchfield) so that helped seal the deal for me. Good luck with whichever direction you choose to go in.

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