1 Sub Sounds like 2?

by **JBNole423** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:28 am

Hey guys -
Was just wondering what subs out there, when powered right, sounds like 2 lesser-end subs. I know brand definitely makes a difference, but how much power does it take for a high quality sub to do that, roughly? (I'm sure it depends...)

In other words, if I powered a nice JL sub with max RMS output, will it blow two rockfords out of the water?

by **masterwong** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 11:52 am

It issn't just the subs that matter. The enclosure, the vehicle, and the amp used can all affect the sub. Take for instance in my Nissan Armada I run 1 JL Audio 13W7 off a JL Audio 1000/1 amp. Now my one sub hits harder then most 12's I hear because the enclosure design is perfect, teh amp is a high end amp, and the openness in my SUV has an added affect for the sub. I have a stand alone battery for just the sound system and a capacitor all that help improve teh performance.

by **JBNole423** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:15 pm

Well given the forum I am assuming we are talking a Gen 1-1.5 Solara. I plan on replacing the battery to a yellow-top Optima (or something like it) in the future, as well as doing the Big 3 upgrade. Also, I am also asking this question in the assumption that the 12" is installed correctly with the proper box-type. So, with all that in mind, see previous questions.

by **BradOwens** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 12:35 pm

if u get 1 13" JL W7 and put 1000 watts on it it'll sound alot louder than almost any sonys or mtxs.

by **jdsun1** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:27 pm

Get a JL sub and you cant go wrong. Less trunk space, a good name, and a good sound too.

by **lilmike2069** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:59 pm

get you an MTX Jackhammer... that 1 will sound like 4 lol. If you can supply enough juice that is

Website · by **Turbosolara** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:13 am

masterwong wrote:It issn't just the subs that matter. The enclosure, the vehicle, and the amp used can all affect the sub. Take for instance in my Nissan Armada I run 1 JL Audio 13W7 off a JL Audio 1000/1 amp. Now my one sub hits harder then most 12's I hear because the enclosure design is perfect, teh amp is a high end amp, and the openness in my SUV has an added affect for the sub. I have a stand alone battery for just the sound system and a capacitor all that help improve teh performance.

what kind of enclousre you have?

by **Biggi_e** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 1:45 am

lilmike2069 wrote:get you an MTX Jackhammer... that 1 will sound like 4 lol. If you can supply enough juice that is

is the jackhammer the 400 lbs sound? thing is huge!! stronger than 4 subs!

by **jdsun1** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:22 am

That sub is insane. If you dont mind spending 7 grand on a sub and then blowing out your windows enjoy. Here is the link to this 320lb beast if anyone is interested. http://www.cardomain.com/item/MTXT992244?ref=bizrdf%20

by **masterwong** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:06 am

Turbosolara wrote:
masterwong wrote:It issn't just the subs that matter. The enclosure, the vehicle, and the amp used can all affect the sub. Take for instance in my Nissan Armada I run 1 JL Audio 13W7 off a JL Audio 1000/1 amp. Now my one sub hits harder then most 12's I hear because the enclosure design is perfect, teh amp is a high end amp, and the openness in my SUV has an added affect for the sub. I have a stand alone battery for just the sound system and a capacitor all that help improve teh performance.

what kind of enclousre you have?

Turbo....I have a custom fiberglass enclosure built into my SUV.

by **sahuddleston** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:10 am

i need audio upgrades.............

by **vin** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:45 pm

You might want to consider the image dynamics idmax, or the phoenix gold ti elite 12.
they are both SQ subs, but can get loud with lots of power.

by **Monkeyman** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 7:03 pm

Everyone who uses this board could listen to exactly the same peice of music, in exactly the same car, with exactly the same stereo, and it will sound different to all of us! Everyone's ears are different, the shape on the outside, inside the canal, and so is their face. This affects how we hear things. You need to go to local shops and listen to every make / model of sub you can (and make sure you use the same peice of music every time, at every store) and make your decision based on what YOU think. In addition to everyone hearing things differnetly, human beings also don't have a very good long term memory for sound (we remember the information that sound gave, but not exactly what it sounded like). It sounds strange, but it is true (imagine how much of our brain we would have to use to remember every sound we hear!). Because of this you should bring a note pad with you. Write down every thing you hear (i.e. does this make / model sound boomy, slow, muddy, clear, smooth, etc.), and take that pad with you every time you listen to a sub ( you can also write down model numbers and prices on the same pad to make thing eaiser). You should also ask the salesman for the minimum enclosure volume (some subs need a LOT of space), and figure out if you are willing to give up that much of your trunk.
If you are really going to go nuts with your enclosure, you should ask the salesman for these numbers:

Resonant Frequency (FS)
Impedance
DC Resistance (RE)
Mechanical Q Factor (QMS)
Total Q Factor (Q/T)
Equivalent Cas Air Load (VAS)

As well as:

Sensitivity
Qms
Qes
Mms
Cms
BL

Hope this helps you wake the neighbors!
David

1 Sub Sounds like 2?

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