speaker sizes

[bparker]

What is the stock speaker wiring rated for? I want to make sure throwing 50-100 watts at it will not be enough to fry anything.

[bparker]

nobody knows? What have you guys done in the past when wiring up door speakers with 50-100 watts? Where did you run the amp? What about the stock JBL location?

[cam2Xrunner]

I hope you don't take offense to this, only trying to help. First off have you bought any of that equipment? If not then I can probably rec. much better for probably the same amount of $.

You're definitely going to want to use new wiring if you are planning on powering your speakers with an amp. You have to use new wiring anyways for the most part. 14 gauge is preffered for speakers. 12 gauge for subs.

I run 8 gauge JL wiring to 1k watt subs(little bit overkill though, but doesn't hurt.

If you haven't bought anything yet, what's your budget. I can probably piece together a system that will be alot better than what you have listed(once again no offense, just trying to help)

[bparker]

I already have a sub amp (Kenwood, 460RMSx1 at 2ohm stable) and I've ordered the sub (Type-R 12 dual 4ohm 500RMS). I don't have any speakers yet or an amp for them. Budget for 4 speakers and the amp is no more than $600, that's about all I want to have to spend on the rest, but I'm flexible somewhat. Let me know your opinion, and thanks for helping me out.

[cam2Xrunner]

nobody knows? What have you guys done in the past when wiring up door speakers with 50-100 watts? Where did you run the amp? What about the stock JBL location?

When wiring up the new component speakers, it is best to not mount the components in the door, since they weill be constanly being shaked by the door closing.

A good place to mount them is somewhere under the dash if possible or mounted underneath the driver and passenger seats.

If possible have a 1/2" or 1/2" mdf adapter made for the door to mount the midbass to.

Like this


Deadening the door's with eDead/raammat60(like dynamat extreme) will help alot to make the components sound better.

You couldn't fit any amp other than the stock JBL amp in the stock location. I'd run it in the trunk.

[bparker]

What do you recommend instead of the speakers/amp I posted earlier?

BTW is there anywhere I can go to have MDF/dynamat etc installed (and for how much) because I really don't have the time nor want to do that at all. As far as mounting the speakers goes, modifying any part of the car is really not an option, so I need to be able to fit everything in stock locations with the exception of the amp. No offense or anything but I've only had the car for a couple months, and it's all I have, so I'm not going to start tearing it apart anytime soon, if at all.

[cam2Xrunner]

What's the most you want to spend on equipment?

Installation is going to cost quite a bit, especially for deadening and woodwork. You don't necesarily need to deaden to have a good sound system. Do you feel comfortable with installing all the audio equipment yourself? Installation on a pair of comps, subs, amps and a reciever can be well over 200 bucks.

You should try installing the stuff, it's really not that hard if you have step by step instructions.

Here's a couple of links that will make it simple.

http://www.zer0.info/solaraguy/viewtopic.php?t=15629

http://www.installdr.com/InstallDocs/To ... 869037.pdf

http://www.zer0.info/solaraguy/viewtopi ... t=speakers

http://www.gearmonkey.org/sixthman/arch ... tml#001934

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t64909.html

http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/t15196.html

[bparker]

I don't have a problem installing the speakers, I did everything on my last car, I just don't want to do the deadening/woodwork myself. I don't mind paying for it, is there anything special I need to tell them or what. Like if I go up to an audio shop and say I need such-and-such done, What all do I need to tell them? Thanks.

[cam2Xrunner]

Just tell them you want your door's fully deadened, or matted. And you want mdf mounting rings cut.

The front doors deadened and the trunk, trunklid, and rear deck are the most important arears if you don't want to do the whole car.

Not sure exactly what a shop would charge for it.

If possible I would buy all the deading mat and audio system components and bring them in for them to install. Get a quote for the whole work that needs to be done, then shop a few other stores. Also check out the quality of the shop and try to see some of the work they have done.

For the most part Al and Ed's is a decent shop for instalation. Make sure you trust the person that is going to be tearing your car apart.

If you want I can rec. some good stuff if you give me a budget to work with. What kind of audio equipment do you have now? And are you planning on reusing some of it?

[cam2Xrunner]

If your budget is 600 for speakers and an amp for them. And since you are going with an Alpine type-r, which is a good sound, the Alpine spx-177R component set would be a good match. I'd go with a different brand of amp for the front components though.

For rear speakers the Pioneer Rev Series are excellent 6x9 rearfill speakers for the money.

Check out this thread for some good ideas.
http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthre ... genumber=1

For components in your price range I've heard really good things about Elemental Designs, CDT, RE- Resonant Engineering, Adire Audio, Image Dynamics Chameleons, Alpine SPX-r177r.

Elemental Designs also makes incredible budget amps. A edi6500s and Nine.2 combo will sound awesome and be well under 600 including some pioneer rev series 6x9's in the back.

I would just get a two channel amp for the front speakers, and if you must have rear speakers then run them off the headunit. Do you have an aftermarket CD player or are you planning on integrating the amps and speakers into the stock sound system using a LOC?

[cam2Xrunner]

If I was going to install speakers an amps for 600, here is what I would do.

http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthre ... did=110101

That Phoenix Gold TI6002 amp for the front components

For the front components
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... eName=WDVW

All you need right there, screw the rearfill

[bparker]

I think I'm just going to let the rear's run off the HU, though I'm debating actually replacing the rear's anyway, there's no plug-n-play method to change the rears anyway from what I hear, something about the mounting brackets. I already got a 2 channel amp from a friend for the fronts, it's an infinity reference 7520 and does 97Wx2 RMS at 4 ohm.

I've got all my wiring pretty much done except for a couple things. First off, I put in a test sub and it's working fine. Both my sub amp and speaker amp are wired and power up fine. Two things I have an issue with. One, regarding the speaker input, can I simply run rca wire from line out on my sub amp to line in on the speaker amp, or will that not feed all the right freqs etc? I have rca run from the sub rca jacks on the back of my kenwood ddx-7015 to line in on my sub amp, and it's working fine, I just don't know if that's carrying all the frequencies or not, since my HU does have its own LPF for bass. Second issue is where to mount both my sub and speaker amps, they're just sitting in the trunk for now. I looked at using the back seats but it seems there's no way to mount either of them with enough room. Any suggestions? Pics would really help a lot on this one. Thanks.

[cam2Xrunner]

I think I'm just going to let the rear's run off the HU, though I'm debating actually replacing the rear's anyway, there's no plug-n-play method to change the rears anyway from what I hear, something about the mounting brackets. I already got a 2 channel amp from a friend for the fronts, it's an infinity reference 7520 and does 97Wx2 RMS at 4 ohm.

I've got all my wiring pretty much done except for a couple things. First off, I put in a test sub and it's working fine. Both my sub amp and speaker amp are wired and power up fine. Two things I have an issue with. One, regarding the speaker input, can I simply run rca wire from line out on my sub amp to line in on the speaker amp, or will that not feed all the right freqs etc? I have rca run from the sub rca jacks on the back of my kenwood ddx-7015 to line in on my sub amp, and it's working fine, I just don't know if that's carrying all the frequencies or not, since my HU does have its own LPF for bass. Second issue is where to mount both my sub and speaker amps, they're just sitting in the trunk for now. I looked at using the back seats but it seems there's no way to mount either of them with enough room. Any suggestions? Pics would really help a lot on this one. Thanks.

I'd wait on the rears for now and spend the $ on the front components. You should run another pair of rca's off the headunit to the component amp. If you only have two set's of preouts use the rear channel for the sub amp, and the front channels for the speaker amp

[bparker]

Do you have any suggestions/pics on where to mount the amps?

EDIT: Actually I'll make this a new topic so everyone sees.