transmission fluid

[Eye8Pussies]

^ lol...I only find that funny because those guys still know more than you do if you have to ask a question like this. I always find it funny when people rag on people who work at shops and presume that they know nothing. I don't let people at shops really touch my car, but that's because I actually do know more than most of them.



but back on topic- basically, do it until the atf is PURE red even after driving around for a hundred miles or so. So, drain and fill....go drive for a while. Then drain and fill again....and go drive for a while., etc. etc. After about 4 or 5 times, you'll probably have ALL of the old fluid out.

[rewmomi]

danm is that better than just doing it at the shop cuz they take some b&G machine and stick a hose into the tranny drain oil and while the bad crap comes out the B&G cleaning fluids go in then they put tranny fluid in like 14 quarts of it lol! But I got what the black lara was saying just trying to help.

[Chinky420]

Ok. Listen. I am going to change my fluid, pan gasket, and filter. I was simply asking how many times that Chinky420 refilled to complete this process. I am not interested in taking my car to a shop and have some low buck low knowledge mechanic do what ever they do to my transmission.

sorry jake and everyone, i've been busy with work this week and haven't had time to go back and revisit all my posts.

i ended up only doing it once, and then when i deducted that my tranny problems would not be solved w/ a simple drain and refill, i took her into the shop to have a professional look at it. turns out the front drum in my tranny went bad from tranny abuse.

so in short jake, i only did it once, but i'm sure it is supposed to be done about 4 times. eye8puss is right, you're gonna want to play it by eye. basically, if you're gonna do the tranny maintenance by yourself, be ready to set aside about two to four weeks to accomplish all of the drain/refills in order to get as clean ATF as possible. for example, when i drained and refilled mine for the first time, i checked the ATF fluid level the next day, and was wiping off brown tranny fluid from my dipstick again, the fresh tranny fluid mixed with the old, and was pretty much worthless at that point.

magnets are present to attract metal shavings that are coming from the tranny (abuse), similar to how those magnetic oil plugs are used to attract metal shavings in your oil.

yes the total amount of tranny fluid in the automatic is about 14 quarts, but the part that is accessable through the pan/dipstick is only about 3-5 quarts. the rest is in the torque converter and the differential.

rewmoni - while i was in there i changed my filter (actually they call it a strainer) too. mine actually wasnt very dirty, and i kinda felt like changing it out was unnecessary. but then again, mine was probably changed at 90k by the previous owner (after inspecting the old strainer).

[LatinDragonXJC]

WHAT!!!!!!!!!! 14QRTS danm well wow how do u manage to get all of it out? And can u drain the torque converter where ever that is?

Shops have a machine that pushes ur old fluid out with pressure and then pushes the new fluid in.

Keep in mind that some people recommend not to do a flush like that on a tranny that has over 50k milage and has never gotten a flush like that. This is where a drain/fill a few times is recommended. Its just how u wanna do it though.

Any sources for this claim? I'm at 90K+ and was about to do the full flush (with machine which takes out 99% of old fluid ).....How will it damage an older transmission? Thanks.

[Jakecallun20]

alright thanks guys, and Eye8pussies....im not claiming that I know more than someone else, I just hate having someone else do something like this...that I know I can do.

[Chinky420]

goddamn it

i just entered a "stop talking sh!t" post....three times

but because SG's server (or maybe my work server) is kinda screwy, it asked me to re-log in after each entry.

so i'll just say this (instead of re-writing the essay again, for the third time):

-stop talking sh!t
-if anyone's gonna talk trash on my thread it's gonna be me
-there are a number of reasons to justify why jake has questions
-don't be a d!ck.

remember, the entire thread got started on a really basic question i had (what kind of AT fluid do you use, i can't find dexron 3).

[Jakecallun20]

Alright I found the answers I needed, I am gonna change my filter, gasket, clean the pan and magnets and change the fluid 4 or 5 times, just by pulling the drain plug and refilling right? I don't have to drop the pan everytime I change the fluid to get the old out, do I?

[Chinky420]

you only have to drop the pan to clean the magnets, or change the strainer/filter.

other than that, you can use the drain plug to drain the fluid.

it is an inverted hex socket for the drain plug....i foget the size (i think i used a 3/8" because it was available)

but be sure to use a cheater bar to get it open/closed, it's torqued on there pretty good.

[Jakecallun20]

you only have to drop the pan to clean the magnets, or change the strainer/filter.

other than that, you can use the drain plug to drain the fluid.

it is an inverted hex socket for the drain plug....i foget the size (i think i used a 3/8" because it was available)

but be sure to use a cheater bar to get it open/closed, it's torqued on there pretty good.

Thanks chinky, you've given me alot of helpful information.

[Jakecallun20]

one last question. when I change the fluid for the 2nd of the 4-5 times, do I need to change the fluid in the diff too (and everytime after untill its clean) and also? how much do I put in the diff? haynes manual says fill in the filler plug till fluid comes back out....am I missing something?

[rewmomi]

well i can def not afford to change my oil 5 times its cheaper for me to just do it on one of those machines man. I use eneos atf and when ur doing a synthetic I would hate to throw it out especially when it cost me 45 bucks for 6 quarts and theres 14 courts in the whole tranny engine so yeah just my 2 cents

[Jakecallun20]

Well, I defintaley won't be using enos, I don't have that kind of cash, but I do know that if I were to use enos, the amount of money I'd spend on that fluid would be much cheaper than transmission work due to a tranny machine messing something up.

[Chinky420]

i personally don't know about the differential...

i have the haynes manual too, and read where it says that you drain from the bottom plug, and fill it back up until it runs out of the top plug (after the bottom plug is put back in, and refilled).

but to be honest, i didn't change mine, and when i was asking about it earlier, i believe it was BChad2000, that told me i wouldn't have to worry about the diff. it wasn't until i took my tranny into the shop and asked the tranny mechanict that i suspected that we (1mz-fe) would have a separate differential.

good luck with it though.

[rewmomi]

^^^^ what I need a better explaination bro?

[Chinky420]

i didn't change the differential fluid, so i dont know what you want from me.

from what i read in the haynes manual, there are two bolts in the differential, one high and one low. the low bolt hole is the drain hole, the high bolt hole is the fill hole.

you drain the differential via the bottom bolt
then you replace bottom bolt and remove top bolt
then you fill differential until top bolt over flowest with auto trans fluid.
finally you replace the top bolt.

anything beyond that (location, size bolt, etc) I DON'T KNOW since i didn't do it. this is just what i read.