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Stock Catalytic Converters

Stock Catalytic Converters

Postby Dawgz » Thu Aug 23, 2007 7:33 pm

Has anyone faced any problems with their stock Cat?

Rottn Egg smell? Clogged Cat? Codes?
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Postby Jakecallun20 » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:59 pm

I have a gen 1 w/ stock and I've never had that problem.
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Postby .onetohate » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:47 pm

yepp! 5S tho.
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Postby Dawgz » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:06 pm

u had a problem with ur Cat? what happened?
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Postby .onetohate » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:34 am

sulfur/rottn egg smell. stealership said its because my engine's running too rich and excess unburnt gasoline was getting trapped in the cat. sooo- its on its way out pretty soon.
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Postby philosophicaljt » Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:06 am

should be replaced under warranty. Emissions have a 8yr 80,000 mile warranty I believe.
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Postby Dawgz » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:43 am

.onetohate wrote:sulfur/rottn egg smell. stealership said its because my engine's running too rich and excess unburnt gasoline was getting trapped in the cat. sooo- its on its way out pretty soon.




yep! same crap happened to me! on the dyno tho
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Postby Dawgz » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:43 am

philosophicaljt wrote:should be replaced under warranty. Emissions have a 8yr 80,000 mile warranty I believe.



i JUST hit 82k, and i called toyota, and it is true, its 8 years or 80k miles, which ever comes first....screw
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Postby philosophicaljt » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:21 am

honda will work with you. I bet toyota will too. Call them up and ask if there is anything they can do. Or use the terms Goodwill Warranty. Its a term used to help them receive get good customer service, even though they still get reimbursed and it doesnt cost them anything anyways.

What I'm trying to say is. Ask again. Mention that the government (in ohio at least) is very strict with emissions controls and that you thought they should be able to do something about it.

My old prelude had 90k on it when they replaced mine free.
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Postby Dawgz » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:02 pm

I just called agian, and they said "nope, once ur beyond 80k miles, theres nothing we can do"


FCK!


o well, i have a whole new exhaust setup anyway, with the new Magnaflow cat, i was just seeing if i could get my OEM replaced for a new one...eh.
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Postby PhreakdOut » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:15 pm

This is my theory on the cause of the smell:

>> High sulfur content in the fuel. Sulfur is commonly found with petrolium and is difficult to refine out in the process of making gasoline. Cheaper refiners will do the minimum required to pass EPA regulations. More on that later.

Since sulfur does not burn in the combustion process. It is expected to pass through to the tailpipe emissions. The problem is that sulfur is attracted to noble metals. (The platinum, palladium and rhodium in the catalyst substrate. ) So the sulfur will coat the substrate until it forms bonds with hydrogen mollecules and becomes "heavy" enough to break free of it's bond to the substrate. This forms Hydrogen Sulfide. (H2S) This is your "Rotten Egg Smell."

EPA regulates the sulfur in gas, not because of the smell but because of the formation of H2SO4. (Sulfuric Acid or "acid rain"). The cerium and zirconium wash coat on the converter substrate is intended to retain oxygen mollecules. ( Promoting the fomation for C02 and H20. ) So you can see how easy it is to form H2SO4.

>> In the past couple years, Toyota had a silent recall on the 2004+ vehicles for the sulfur smell. I don't know if it went all the way back to 2000 models. The silent recall simply was a different service part number than the production part number. The new service part number had a different converter welded into the assembly. The new converter had a different washcoat to reduce the formation of H2S. Toyota would recommend to the customers to change fuel stations. (Stop buying the cheap stuff. Not the octane rating, just the brand.)

Stop by your dealers part manager and ask if there are two part numbers for the converter on your Solara. (Or even better, send a pm to Reggie / NVDIS1 and ask him to look into it.) If there is a part in the recall campaign, then you might get it for free. (Installed) The dealer will not know directly about the silent recall. I believe there is nothing written on it and this is all voluntary on Toyota's part. Reggie will be able to find the details. Unfortunately, in the case of the recall, it wasn't on an older car. Customers complained about the smell right away. (So the washcoat was VERY prone to forming H2S even with small traces of sulfur found in fuel.)

Like I said above, it takes a lot to get the sulfur to release from the substrate. So it could be a couple thousand miles before it's all out. The first thing you should do is change who you get your fuel from before the substrate has any more deposits in it.

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Postby PhreakdOut » Fri Aug 24, 2007 12:28 pm

By the way: Your converter is working very well. Otherwise you wouldn't have the formation of H2S. It just needs the sulfur out. (And no more put in it.) If you change converters without changing fuel, you may get the same result if the washcoats are similar.

I'd have to be REALLY annoyed with the smell to shell out the bucks for a new cat. Stick to trying to get the smell out instead.
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Postby Dawgz » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:36 pm

im spending the bucks because the dyno shop said my Cat is clogged, and thats why my Dyno Numbers are retarded, my power band drops after 4500K


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Postby TMMK Toy » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:12 pm

Just go with a test pipe or a high flow cat.
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Postby .onetohate » Fri Aug 24, 2007 9:34 pm

^^ thought about it.. but it isnt gonna pass smog here in cali.

Chevron / shell / 76 / - all does the same damage.. chevron especially.

Rotten Robbie .. works well- not as bad... gotta wait 2 full tanks to see results tho.
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